Right now Im simply building a list of names to determine interest: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/14/organizing-a-research-team/. Do u know if this particular spot was apart of the trail they went on? Phone records. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious. Both of these photos were photoshopped! One showed Kremers with what looked like concern on her face,dated around the time of the emergency calls. OK I see the conspiracy theorists saying someone else had their phones but who else would know to try 112 which is the common emergency number for EU countries? What people are mistaking as blood from her nose and lip is again just a shadow cast from her nostril and lower lip due to the bright sun. That could just be confirmation bias on my part. It would also show that the photos had been truly messed about with, as this one is supposed to come before the photos of her crossing the stream. German Tourist Sexually Assaulted After Being Lost In Panama's Jungles It looks like an indigenous person with shiny black hair walking away from Kris. But others have suggested the chilling photos might have been taken by someone else after killing the girls. I often keep reading things online hoping that they solved the case, but unfortunately it doesnt look like they really have. She uses Kris phone, instinctively entering her own pin number. Keep in mind, these are my observations Ive made since moving from the USA. Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. Perhaps the killer of Catherine Johanet knows more, Hi, u might want to watch this vid it has theories dat i think might giv more insights to this case, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pCaD8kRTwsI. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? They do nothing to further discourse surrounding this tragedy and only attract people who think its fun to join in with conspiracies about the deaths of these two very real girls with very real families (who are suffering tremendous heartbreak). This photo has been edited. Of course, there are always exceptions. The identity of the person who took the images remains a mystery. ITS SHAPED LIKE A BRA. I dissagree with her hand beeing tied. The picture just before this one appears to be higher in elevation, meaning that from the direction they were coming, a pit trap being place around this area could/would be ideal. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. These nameless trails arent monitored or maintained by park rangers. This! I dont buy it that those girls were murdered on the pianista trail. Eight tourists from Moscow who. One indication is that I cannot see the shoulder strap of her top that is obscured by her white/fair forearm. The total number of people who have gone missing in Mexico since 2006 and have never been found stands at almost 87,855, according to the government from a report earlier this year. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. again, this has been superimposed on the scene and again her feet are obscured because she is not wearing boots. But there are a few holes in this particular theory. 2. Most disappearance cases dont get such publicity, so you can imagine how much less effort goes into them. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. Panama City Beach tourism numbers break records for 2021 - WJHG Remains of 2 American women missing after Panama plane crash recovered In fact, its probable to some degree. Many cold cases have been solved years later. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. So many clues in all these pictures. According to ageographicalexpert, the three-mile stretch is relatively easy to explore, and most missing tourists return without assistance or come across search parties looking for them. He drowned a short time after. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. Certainly, each country around the world offers valuable experiences in their own way. Apr 4, 2022 The number of international visitor arrivals in Panama surpassed the one million in 2021, after having plummeted to less than 700 thousand as a result of COVID-19 impact on tourism. Two months after the backpack was found, a pelvic bone and foot still inside a boot were discovered in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? 60 Percent of Missing Foreigners In The Cancun Area Remain Unsolved However there appear to be yellowish/beige shadows and it looks like a sandstone cliff. They were lost very shortly after arriving at their destination, And then they made a huge mistake by heading due north to find their way back home and they should have been going to the southeast. Also, it wouldnt make sense if Lisanne didnt know Kris password. Hi Oliver, I do believe that theres enough evidence to conclude that some of the photos were graphically edited (photoshopped) but I dont think this photo was manipulated. Gary, great work on noticing things in such detail. What confuses this is that after Kriss phone dies then on the 5th during the afternoon SOS attempt a wrong pin is input on Lisannes phone and indeed continues to be input until the end. In the Americas, more than 6,200 people have been reported dead or missing during migration since 2014. That is why the poor often resort to vigilantism. But absolutely everything points to it being a case of underestimating the jungle and dying from exposure. one girl got hurt, i think in the fall the camera got wet and bumped. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. Accordingly, Kremers's phone was powered-on one last time on April 11, 2014; both phones wentdead afterward. One or more abductor did know the phone PIN but not all people involved knew. I believe that by the time this photo was taken, the situation has gone sideways. But the blue was also something I noticed. If so then those could tell some information. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. People claiming the floor is made out of skulls, that there is a booby trap above her head, that there are 5 men with rifles watching her, that there are snakes hanging down, that she is at some sort of human sacrificial alter etc. The phones showed that just hours after the beginning of their hike, someone dialed 112 and then 911. Whatever happened I believe was not from a man following them. Fingerprints were not investigated. If anything, they work harder to try and bring anyone to justice that harms a tourist. Yes, I think its the entrance to a short cave. The Darin Gap: "A nightmare with 1,001 demons" - Doctors Without Borders Most people in Panama dont have the expertise, nor equipment to handle these sophisticated tasks. Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? The whole scene is odd why is Lisanne (if it was her) standing miles away? Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. actually name names. Also I wish we new more details on the phones. But what if that is what led them off track ? I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. The branches above her could be an attempt to hide the entrance. The indigenous people know how to use phones watch the Kinga documentary. In the leaked images some 90% of the original information is irretrievably lost trying to read anything into any of the remaining spots and splotches is fools errand. Why would that be? No dog. This could be a very handy skill to our team. Also right inside the cave looks like a fox or something similar is painted on the rock. Rest fell off of the one hour bridge in Bastrop brains and on the rocks below some photos show her dead body laying down there. To the creator of this photo analysis Thank You, excellent work. Whatever happened and if it did not include a third party must have been serious and traumatic because we live in selfie times and as can be seen from their earlier fotos they were in the selfie zone. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been . As soon as I zoomed in, my heart sank for her. The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. The picture people think she is looking down she is hanging with hands tied behind her back. Ive written about many disappearances in Central America: https://imperfectplan.com/disappearances/, Thank you for your comment and please feel free to send me any notes/info that you find. Just behind her tied hand area. Youre welcome to do that other places online. Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate. ^ But the galvanized sign marking the terminus of the Pianista isnt really the end of the trail. In fact, theres a very obvious, albeit mud-choked, passage that goes down the other side of the crestonly to intersect with an entire web of paths constructed and used primarily by members of the indigenous Ngobe tribe. Does anyone know if the dog they brought with them is in any photos from the hike? That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. Perhaps Kris is already caught in the trap and thats why she is in a funny position and her waist is drawn in tight. He wasnt walking with them. Out of respect for the girls families, I think that comments like this, which I argue turn this case into some sort of entertaining Netflix series, should be removed. I am from Panama, and I know that there are way more dangerous drug and crime cartels active in remote parts of the country than officials want to admit to because the tourism would be affected. Search shoe with foot in it found. Why? Any comments that are disrespectful or inconsiderate to the families of Kris and Lisanne will be removed by a moderator. Let me dampen the third party argument by asking IF their end was at the hands of another personwhy not simply bury the rucksack rather than all the elaborate need for photoshopping and phones used in the hands of a third party ? Tourism in Panama represents one of Panama's main activities. Therefore we cannot conclude that a dog was even with them. Its too cold to sleep at night, so they try to keep moving, until, in the darkness Kris falls down a ravine, hitting her head, and going into a coma. Links that require download are high-risk by their very nature, so please consider uploading your media to a website like imgur.com or a similar alternative. After this, can ANYONE IN THIS WORLD still doubt that this girl WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN OR PHONED HER MOTHER FOR TWO WEEKS when she also called the police 100 times? The critical time is between the last foto and the first SOS call. If you are in the middle of the jungle, lost, and desperately trying to find service, why waste your battery by logging into your phone. Then uses the flash to take many photos of the area, so she can return for Kris after finding help. ALSO, I really want to know where and when Kris quit wearing her backpack! The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? The group of 13 youngsters - nine from Coln province and four who were visiting from Panama City - left on Friday morning to go swimming in Gatn Lake. A priest of sorts. Draw a line from that point in all directions as far as they could travel in the time to the emergency call, and there must be part of the answer to the mystery inside that circle. Have you looked closely at what Chris has labelled the insignia. I wonder why the girls didnt do any text messages even if they never got through? But someone may not like it, so I hope that you will be very carefull! Also why make them at night and not during the day? The lower orange being around the belly area. I know AMAZING explanition it is sad they are dead but my friend said they might be faking and Lisanne froon and kris kremer ate people to fake their bones but I think my friend is wrong. Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). Who said there werent any scratches on the bones? The night time photos are not relevant but the result of someone playing with the camera. I also live in a third-world country about which it was said that investigations were shut down, or botched, to protect the tourist industry. I can assure you that is nonsense. Let me know about your opinion heres the link https://youtu.be/4wqUCG5bxns loads of greetings Mel. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. Here are some ideas Ive speculated about. 3. A man and a woman. And I agree that her hands are free. Keep the ideas flowing guys. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Please read. Or is it all part of a cover-up? If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. Poor investigations and low standards are very common in these under-developed countries. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. This is because people who knew the area were able to recognize that the nighttime photos were likely taken at Caldera springs, more than 20 miles from the area the girls allegedly went missing at. 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. Many people in El Salvador permit their dogs to roam freely outside in the streets and forests. But I still had that curiosity. Regarding the existing photos its a big mess. The two friends were traveling home after spending New Year's Eve weekend at a bed and breakfast on the Panamanian island Isla Contadora on Jan. 3 when their small plane, piloted by the B&B owner, suffered an engine failure and crashed off the coast of Chame, according to friends and family. I was visiting Panama and Boquette July 2014, thats when I first heard about this case and was following it ever since. Subsequent analysis revealed that on April 4, Froons phone battery became exhausted, but between April 5 and April 11, Kremers iPhone was turned on multiple times but whoever turned it on didnt enter the PIN code correctly. Years later, some people still believe someone killed the pair. There are more answers out there that are still possible to gather. Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. As you mention, she is blocking the sun with her hand and keeping her head down. I think we are all seeing things that arent there. Police cant be that stupid, but they hope that we are that stupid. However, with the high resolution photo, you can more clearly see an organized structure over her head. Her hands could be tied behind her back but, if this is the case, then much computer editing was involved because other photos that come AFTER this one in camera sequence show Kriss walking ahead of Lisanne WITHOUT her hands tied behind her back. If you look at her shirt, it appears to be red and white striped. Clearly the trash on the rocks indicates it had active people. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. Its incredibly sad. It is high noon and they have no way of telling which direction to go. Their causes of death have never been determined. Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. Why would the perpetrators concoct all of the photo/backpack evidence? I am thinking while I am writing so please be patient with me. The blood on her leg is, again, a shadow. More info here. It was the last time anyone saw the women alive. On one website, almost every user is convinced, that all the daylight pictures were photoshopped, even this one here, No.505. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. Or another type of colorful animal found in the jungle? The white and red object on the left looks slightly like a cows head and what I took to be Kriss tousled hair on the left of her head now looks like the thumb and fore finger of her left hand pointing to the inside of the hut. This would cover natural causes and the rucksack contents being in perfect condition. The guide had something to do with the girls disappearance. The illusion of her being tied and in distress is nothing more than that. Hard noncontroversial evidence is very limited and what there is is open to interpretation. In a chilling discovery, 90 photos had been snapped on the camera deep in the jungle in the dead of night on April 8 between 1am and 4am - raising questions about who took the pictures. I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? A closer look at mysterious disappearances that continue to baffle detectives. Before you even pointed out the manmade ceiling structure I noticed that. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. The rock isnt about the twig its got chunks of flesh and blood splatter all over it to the right and back of rock. Rights of initiation? if both then was the other found in their room? However, her surroundings were my intended focus regarding this photo theres a lot of things in this photo that havent been discussed elsewhere and could provide clues as to what happened to them. The theory of being lost is so plausible in a Jungle but then the photos .. the speculation can never end. Hi Chris, Very interested in your website! I never noticed this before Ive travelled through Central and South America quite a bit and these experiences cant be found elsewhere. I have spent a lifetime walking in the forest near my home and I dont see the odd things that people see. Would they really have gone along a dark spooky ravine, which is obviously a dead end, if they were trying to find their way back to Boquete? Terrible for the parents. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. Despite these . I have seen her stick out her tongue and other photos of her. Fact. The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. Which other objects in this photo look unnatural to you? Im not sure though, Id have to search in my graphic editor again. Im very impressed. Theres a lot of loose ends to be tied up, but I think this 2021 investigation can do it. Who knows if the girls really went for a walk that day by themselves? Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. The real question is wether or not there is a cave or dwelling behind her. Hope there will be a reasonable explanation to everything one day. His . Hi Chris, to me the place Kris is in looks really spooky, but I also think it looks like the entrance to a cave. I think the last three photos of Kris show a definite change in mood. Small-town America no more? Tourism gains have made Panama City Beach Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon were both adventurers. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. Emilio Virola - 12 years in prison. I dont see what the writer sees at all. Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. And there have been some other unsolved murders in the same area where the girls were. If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. It holds a bad energy. Here is the comparison: All comments are held for moderation prior to being published. Depending on how many mobile towers there are the police should have information. Her face is swollen from being hit, her neck is bleeding, multiple cuts all over plus you can see someone sitting on ground behind her watching. Also we are in the realms of Hollywood if we need such a calm and calculating mind at work other than those of the girls to abduct and or kill them and then orchestrate a smokescreen. Indeed it does not even accidentally appear. People have long realized that its up to the public to solve this. Does anyone know what the orange string is on the left of the photo? Again, these are just observations. He believes he is working for God. I think Kris was about to have a quick look in a man-made structure she had stumbled across just to explore. This is something I will surely investigate more and write about in the future. This tribe was not located near the area where Kris and Lisanne disappeared, and therefore, in no way can be connected to the disappearance of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. After frolicking in the sun and taking photos for a while they decided it was time to return home, BUT they had no idea where they entered the jungle so they could not find the way out of the jungle back go to the trail. There is discussion in reference to a possible cave, but is there any evidence that the girls found a cave besides perhaps Kriss hair appearing unusually dry in the night photos? For pareidiologists, in the Cave photo on the right just over halfway from Kris head to the edge of the photo there is an arm and hand tied to a tree, and to the right of Kris leg is the sole of a walking boot with a light stripe down the middle. There are . It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. Lets try one more time then (and please dont censor this, even if you think that it is not pretty murders rarely are! September 1, 2022. I cant imagine the rednecks in Alto Romero or the lads from Calderas having the wit to bother with it. no, Jaguars fear humans and do not hunt them as tigers do in India. Ive written about dozens of stories involving incompetence of law enforcement in disappearance cases. The plane was located with the help of Bruce's Legacy, as well as a local family whose boats were used in the mission, Lewitinn said. Or maybe the girls were using the flash as light in the dark. Maybe shes told to put her hands up and walk into this structure. I think the look on her face isnt scared, but she looks to maybe be in wonder that they found a place like that? I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large. Something I hadnt noticed before until I could see the photos upclose, (the one where she is hunched over) is that her face looks distorted; it doesnt look like her almost as if its some kind of mask. Call us in Washington, D.C. at 1-888-407-4747 (toll-free in the United States and Canada) or 1-202-501-4444 (from all other countries) from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). So I see men in the cave. You have a good eye! Think. I knew there was a lot of interest in the case but I never expected to find a sophisticated group collaborating at this level. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. Apparently it would also have been easy to alter the time stamps on the photos. There were no signs at that time. Im not sure if Ive found something new here, but I havent found anyone else discussing these details online. Im very curious what your experience is living in Latin America, because generalizations like your statement are certainly inconsistent with many disappearance stories and law enforcement activity here. Each year, around 30,000 people are reported missing in Australiaone person every 18 minutes. Kris is hunched over beside a sacrificial alter with hands tied behind her. After any incident the first 24 hours are critical and it seems all that time was lost. Political corruption runs rampant, depending on the community, which has a cascading effect on law enforcement and local crime. Wonder if this case has any similarities? And look at it from this point of view. As we all know, hitting delete never actually deletes files therefore overwriting the files is the only effective method to cleaning old data. Is the time that photo was taken known? They very quickly realized that they could not find the point where they entered the jungle and if they were in trouble, and that is when the 911 calls started. Out of all the photos that have been released this photo disturbs me the most. They didnt take anything with them for more than 1 or 2 hours max journey. To Janice To me it looks as if shes holding up one hand cupping her ear as if to hear something being shouted to her. I think investigation isnt the correct word. They had planned a trip in the forest the next day, on April 2nd, with a local guide. The simplest is for them to disappear. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms.
Lcdc Intern Supervision, Healthy Chicken Broccoli Rice Casserole Greek Yogurt, Rbwm Green Bin Subscription, Runtz Carts Fake Vs Real, Sal Valentinetti And Heidi Klum Relationship, Articles H